ATI vs nVidia

[Rhino]

Ok allways the intresting poll, which 1 will you vote for :D

Im a ATI man myself with my Sapphire 9800pro :cool:

[M3RC]

Bah!!!!!! Actually i have never used anything but nvidia. 6800gt for me..

[DD-KGann]

F' ATI, lol. It's all about Nvidia for me! 6800GT!

[DD-Salcor]

Nvidia all the way.
I have had both and I love my 6800 pci-e :D

[Chris S]

ATI 9800 pro, though my next card may be a nVidia!

[Cardan]

nvidia all the way. loving my 6600

[Rhino]

wow first time i have ever seen 1 of these polls where nVidia is acturly winning :eek:

but its only by 1 vote sofar :p

you guys heard of the x800? way better than your 6800 :p

[Franz]

Uhh, I'm not a fanboy so I'm free to always pick the best poss videocard whether it be ATI or nVidia ;)

I'm been prone to ATI the last 2-3 years since they've had the best chips but right now nVidia is ahead IMO - but ATI might take over again soon with their R580 chip that's expected in Q1 2006.

It's a good thing the lead changes since that means both companies stay in buisness which will ensure competition which again will ensure faster development and LOWER PRICES for us, the consumers !

[desolatordan]

I have a 6600GT, but I've used ATI products in the past and I have to say I'd rather have an ATI card than nVidia.

[Donkey]

ATi X850XT....It's awsome....

I like ATis answer to dual video cards way better than Nvidias SLI BS...Since with ATi you dont have to have matched cards...All you need is for one of the cards to have ATi cross fire capabilities...No need for special mobos, or stupid little flimsy connectors...

IMO This is a much smarter idea but check it out for yourself

http://www.ati.com/technology/crossfire/features.html

[nathan42100]

If ATi were easier to buy, I would have voted that, but for now, nVidia all the way!

[Rhino]

If ATi were easier to buy, I would have voted that, but for now, nVidia all the way!

wtf, what do u mean by ATI are hard to buy? all you have to do is go on a site like ebuyer.co.uk or for you US guys would be somthing like newegg.com and order it :rolleyes:

[desolatordan]

I think he means price? Some of their stuff is a little more than nVidia's. Depends what price range you're buying though.

[Franz]

According to the various hardware (news) sites the launch of ATI's newest line, the X1000 series, has been more of a so-called "paper-launch" than an actual launch since it's been very hard to find and purchase examples...it's only round about NOW they've really started appearing so maybe that's what Nathan ment ?

[DD-AT1Smoke]

I have an ATI X850XT PE AGP. My son has a nVidia 7800 GTX. His graphics are SO much better than mine with the same settings. I know we have different MOBO's, but we both have 2gig RAM. I have an Intel chip P4 3.0 mhz, He has a AMD 4800 X2. Side by side, his graphics are much, much better.

[Rhino]

I have an ATI X850XT PE AGP. My son has a nVidia 7800 GTX. His graphics are SO much better than mine with the same settings. I know we have different MOBO's, but we both have 2gig RAM. I have an Intel chip P4 3.0 mhz, He has a AMD 4800 X2. Side by side, his graphics are much, much better.

have you tryed putting open gl and direx x settings on full?
ATI have them of defult as medium ;)

[DD-AT1Smoke]

By settings, I meant the BF2 settings. Thanks Rhino, I will give it a try!

*EDIT* Rhino, I checked everything is on HIGH in my Catalyst Control Panel

[Franz]

Each generation of video chips can generate graphics that are a little better than the previous generation due to new and/or improved technologies so that would probably explain some of the reason for that, Smoke, but I think the main reason in the difference in graphics quality is that BF2 is optimized for nVidia cards...you see the nVidia logo during upstart of the game (unless you've disabled it) and it means that the game favours nVidia videocards over ATI and thus generates graphics that look better when you have an nVidia card...

[klown killer]

I have an ATI X850XT PE AGP. My son has a nVidia 7800 GTX. His graphics are SO much better than mine with the same settings. I know we have different MOBO's, but we both have 2gig RAM. I have an Intel chip P4 3.0 mhz, He has a AMD 4800 X2. Side by side, his graphics are much, much better.

First off, the nvidia 7800 has 2x the rendering pipes as the ati 850 (just an OC'd 800 to keep up with nvidia till they release their new gen cards). Second, the amd 4800 x2 smokes your 3.0 pentium. So, yeah, your sons graphics are gonna look better. If I were you, I'd go out and get a new mobo, a 4800 x2, and a dual 7800gtx setup and put him to shame. Unless he already has the dual 7800's. In that case, I'd make it an ati crossfire setup an get the latest ati x1800 (I think thats what they are calling them) cards. (ahhhh, the perks of being a grownup with a job) lol

[Franz]

Naa, the X850 XT sports 16 rendering pipelines vs the 24 of the 7800GTX but point well taken and yeah, that has an impact too. If you add the above reasons together you'd probably have the full answer.

[Donkey]

First off, the nvidia 7800 has 2x the rendering pipes as the ati 850 (just an OC'd 800 to keep up with nvidia till they release their new gen cards). Second, the amd 4800 x2 smokes your 3.0 pentium. So, yeah, your sons graphics are gonna look better. If I were you, I'd go out and get a new mobo, a 4800 x2, and a dual 7800gtx setup and put him to shame. Unless he already has the dual 7800's. In that case, I'd make it an ati crossfire setup an get the latest ati x1800 (I think thats what they are calling them) cards. (ahhhh, the perks of being a grownup with a job) lol

Too bad ATis approach to dual video cards blows nVidias SLI bull shizzle out of the water....dont waste your money do it piece meal in a way you can afford ;)

BTW I'm talking about ATi CrossFire

Now only if they made a mobo that had both AGP and PCIe so we could all slowly migrate over....

[Franz]

There are a few mobos "out there" that come with support for both AGP and PCIe allowing you to "change over" in your own time...I had a link to an article about one but that was like 6 months ago so it's "gone"...trick is the mainstream mobo chipsets don't support it so it's mobos that sport one of the ULi chipsets, chipsets most ppl haven't heard off...and now nVidia has bought up ULi...

But there are "off-beat" mobos around like the ASRock K8 Combo-Z that comes with 2 CPU sockets, one AMD Socket 754 and 1 Socket 939.
Also MSI has made the MSI 915 Combo series that supports both DDR and DDR2 RAM, but of course you can't have both types of RAM in it at the same time...

Albatron has made what's called an "AGP-to-PCIe" graphics card bridge :

http://www.tweakup.dk/images/news/vilmex0268.jpg allowing you to use an AGP videocard in a mobo with PCIe sockets but performance usually takes a hit from such "bridges"...and, as far as I know, it will only work with nVidia cards...

From the reviews of ATI's Crossfire dual-videocard system I've seen there's some good things and some bad things and it seems ATI has the upper hand in some areas and nVidia has the upper hand in others...so it's more a matter of "preference" it would seem...personally I wouldn't mind if I had one or the other.
But ATI's Crossfire has forced nVidia to update their SLi so that you can now have two nVidia videocards of different brand and with different amount of RAM on them in SLi where before they had to be identical.

[Shallin]

nothing but the best, NVidia, started out with FX5200 ULTRA, upgraded to a F-Force 6200 256MB OC(BFGTech), next is to the 7800

[DD-KGann]

I don't know...I have a friend who has an ATi X800. He has an AMD 3200+, and I have a P4 Prescott 2.4GHz. My GPU is an Nvidia 6800GT, and it puts his computer down by around 15-30FPS on average. (That goes out to the guy who said the X800 was better...the X800 and GeForce 6800 run about the same, until you get up to the GT's and XT's)

[Maytheus]

Currently nVidia 7800 GTOC. I agree with the post about ATI being hard to obtain (at the initial launch anyway). Every ATI card I have bought I had to sit and wait for a couple of months for the top end. I have never had to wait for nVidia products.

[DD-AT1Smoke]

First off, the nvidia 7800 has 2x the rendering pipes as the ati 850 (just an OC'd 800 to keep up with nvidia till they release their new gen cards). Second, the amd 4800 x2 smokes your 3.0 pentium. So, yeah, your sons graphics are gonna look better. If I were you, I'd go out and get a new mobo, a 4800 x2, and a dual 7800gtx setup and put him to shame. Unless he already has the dual 7800's. In that case, I'd make it an ati crossfire setup an get the latest ati x1800 (I think thats what they are calling them) cards. (ahhhh, the perks of being a grownup with a job) lol

LOL...Maybe I ought to just kick his behind to the curb, take his machine...and if he's lucky...he can have my machine! :D Thanks for the advice Klown!

[Shallin]

.. my LAN Association is like anti NVidia, i am the only one with a NV card, the rest of them are running 9800's, 850XT's, and one of them even picked up a X1800XT PCI-e, (still working on the rest of the parts, slowing getting them as they ship in to local PC store), but i am the only one and i have the most issues so it makes me look HORRIBLE as a NVidia "luver", although our network Administrator(co-owner of Branzone.com) runs a 7800GT and it runs pretty smoothly but he wont brag it up for me lol.. AHHHHH

[Franz]

The GF 7800 GT is a damn good card and more than sufficient + price is reasonable ! Problem is neither the new ATI X1xxx series nor the GF 7800 series support the AGP socket, only the new PCIe...

[Rhino]

abit off topic here but this is the 2nd time this has happened in 1 of my ATIvsNVidia polls where the nVIDIA pic allways gets deleted. Gess that ppl dont like that pic on there site :p ill renew the link

EDIT: ckilla will have to edit it it dont have a edit button for me :rolleyes:

[Chris S]

You should be able to edit your post!

[Rhino]

You should be able to edit your post!

I can edit my post, but i cant edit the poll from there :rolleyes:

[Ravendhi]

BFG Tech 7800 gtx 512mb OC. It's the best card out right now, nothing can touch it. Although that may change when the new ATI r5whatever comes out.